Podcast Transcript
this is straight jacket podcast I’m Rachel Honda LCSW licensed clinical social worker and this is Jeff uh my
name is Jeff representative of Mental Health Resource and our guest today is Jake
query who is a behavioral health counselor um Jake how are you doing
today I’m doing well doing well awesome so why don’t you tell us a little bit
about yourself and your background tell us tell us a little bit about your story all right I was born in 88 in the County
of Los Angeles with uh my family and they split up when I was five and I moved to South Orange County at 5 years
old and um in a middle class it was slightly
uh I had a slight Advantage just because my family had a lot of love had two brothers um grew up playing sports
hockey and good schools until around High School came around I was just um
see validation status uh easy money quick
money I was glamorized by the gangs and the prison life and which ultimately
ended me up in prison I started selling heroin at a young age
and was pretty reckless with my behavior and um landed myself in prison I did 10
years and um really active political
like I said man I got caught up in it and had my hand raised and just went went in full force and learned a lot
learn a lot about myself learned a lot about other people and just what what life’s really about when when you go
without for so long and it wasn’t one stretch you know I get I do I get caught for sales two three years or so get out
and have about a three-month expiration and go right back and that happened through my entire 20s
and I put myself through a lot of uh a lot of situations that that I never
would have thought as a child growing up you know um a lot of violence and
just until until I got out and I thought I learned I thought I really wanted to
change my ways and uh last time I got out of prison 2019 I just fell back in the same thing
started selling started Living the pleasure seeking
pleasure chasing and hanging out with the wrong crowd and also while I was in prison I got um I
joined a gang and always had my hand rais CU like I said I was seeking that validation I
just I just I was never really um I don’t know man I would never I I
would do stuff for other people it seemed like and just about my ego and and uh put me in a lot of isolation
I did three years in isolation and um well when I got out yeah I
started doing the same thing but I was able to catch myself my last
arrest I I it really hit home cuz you know my grandma raised me and she was
declining and uh my last arrest I got arrested in a foot pursuit right outside
her house and she’s and that was always my biggest fear was her dying while I was
incarcerated and uh got busted right in front of her house I told him look man I got a lot of
things on me just walk me to the car don’t pull it out in front of her and they did and I got me I got arrested and
uh I bailed out and when I bailed out it just I came came to a
program well I fought a case I was fighting that case and got sentenced to do 9 months at a treatment center with
four years over my head and I was just I was done man I just I needed something
new I but I didn’t know it at the time you know I came to this program just kind of trying to finesse and just wing
it and just I wasn’t I felt I hit rock bottom but I wasn’t just I wasn’t ready
to change yet and um I took that time I I did the nine months in the
program which is um impressed my whole family and friends they they couldn’t believe it and I took that time to
really um selfinvest self-develop and learn
more about myself and I’ve been to many and with the same attitude going in it
and just nothing nothing ever really clicked for me nothing ever really um sat home or made me get out of
my head and and realize what’s really going on with my life until till I can that program
and and I just I loveed the people around me I I I started to realizing man my family’s getting old um you know I
did I did 11 years and and I can do more time but it’s it’s just so
selfish I mess my mom’s heart up she’s on heart medications and um I just need to grow up man you
know I need to grow up um I sto gang banging I didn’t go out
backwards I’m still I’m still there but my friends respect where I’m at you know
and and I just I grew out of it as well as the drug dealing and and the violence
um and and the place I was at just really really gave me space to to work
on myself and and since then I I’ve been reading a lot and listening to um
motivational things and um reading philosophy passages and and
really let it resonate with me man I’ve been journaling I got into a a morning
routine that that’s changed my life you know
um I Dro my ego and and just really like helping other people man I use that
morning time as as Solitude to to work on myself so I can carry that man
throughout the day and and just be the best man I can be
helping other people because um Love Is A Verb gratitude
is um is everything man I just wake up so grateful nowadays and and I love
helping other people I love I don’t like sharing my story too much but um I feel I’ve been through a
lot to where I have answers people can can um I’ve
been i’ a lot of people can understand me because I’ve been through so much you know um I understand a lot and I can’t
really articulate it too well verbally but um the energy is there and and I’m
working on it and it helps me just as much as I can help other people and that’s where I am today man I still have that probation going on
and let’s cut that AP part out and that’s where I’m at today and
uh life’s great man it’s it’s uh I just feel truly blessed
to to be here and and surrounded by the people I’m with and still in my family
my life and um things are things are going good
man man that was a lot um
I think the first question that I have is uh just just just based on the nature of the podcast um was mental
what what part of uh mental health was part of your journey or do you not really think about
it or like um I’d say just from from my mental
witness if I already just sit back in in my mind and and look at myself from a
bird ey View xiety really construed me and I was never really depressed
um although PTSD um is there as well but just not so
often I’d say anxiety anxiety riddled me through through my upbringing to where I
would um kind of act out a character not
aligned with my principles just because um
I just wasn’t I just wasn’t in the moment I don’t know I don’t know but anxiety is has always been a big one for
me so like a big thing that probably it sounds like is has helped you out is just kind of being present being in the
moment um meditation I know you talked about your morning routine
um is there anything else that you you kind of have used nowadays to to help you out with your
anxiety um I just try to if I feel it um I just replace it with
the word energy man it’s anxiety is Just Energy to be used you know and let like
cuz typically you just construct some some agenda in your head that hasn’t happened yet and it’ll just run a train
on you and paralyze you and and I like to say God has everything
worked out what we get worked up over and and I just I try to use anxiety as
energy to to do what needs to be done or to do what I
think should be done you know what do they call that in the the the clinical
field it’s like reframing or or something like that yeah reframing and um so you said you spent
three years in isolation um how did that affect your mental health and how did
you get through it it was um it was tough times it was a
a political event that brought me there and uh what it was it was a it was a 3×8
wall you can touch the walls if you spread your wings and oh my gosh there was no windows um and you get a shower I
would bird bath on the toilet every day typically but if you were to shower they come in your cell
and just take whatever you don’t get store you don’t um you you got nothing coming
45 5 hours a day you’ll get to go to a day room in some sector but but um I
read a lot I started that’s where I picked up drawing I started to draw a
lot and um I would from my sack lunch I would draw a chess board on the sack
lunch and draw out little chest pieces and on the hor is you label it a through
H and then one through eight play chess with someone I never met in the vents
I’ll stand on my toilet say Pond from AG two to h four and
then so you just be playing some random person in there yeah that’s wild yeah man and
uh and just reading a lot and I would still you know I would look forward to my court dates because you get to get
out I would look forward to uh any kind of movement um but really I just I would
I would I’d probably work out an hour or two a day and study for four I read a
lot of read a lot what would you say some of the biggest things that you’ve gathered um were or I guess the biggest
things that you’ve learned from that time period in your life um being incarcerated you you get completely
stripped of everything um especially if you go to prison that includes the people you talk to you know and and
sometimes I’d be sitting there for months we get slammed down for anywhere from 6 months to longer
and you know you could play so many cards or read but but you’re just waiting on that letter or that visit and
I would get mad man I would just be like where the [ __ ] are these people man where
and and I started looking at it like I learned unconditional love cuz I
love them like whatever they’re going through I’m just going to I’m just going to send love their way [ __ ] my letter [ __ ] my visit they got something going
on and I’m just I’m just being self man I’m up in Susanville which is by Oregon
and uh and and also you know you being
stripped of all that sensory [ __ ] you you learn to read body language real
well and and just um the energy
the um but I I learned a lot about other
people you know you see some of these because I did um I did my time in some really hard places man been Pelon Bay
High Desert and and some some really raw and violent gnarly people and you see
them and then you see them going to the phone stressing their people for money cuz they’re in a debt because they’re
they’re using drugs and and I just saw that as a ultimate sign of weakness man
and and I tried to pledge myself I wouldn’t be using drugs I I never did that man I had hustles I tattooed a lot
but just being able to sit and people watch and and learn about other people and and you live in a bathroom with
another man you know you with no no cell phone no T well sometimes TV
but um you learn to adjust and and
you you got no choice man so just sometimes I wake up early
and um not even say anything be quiet and just
do my thing but just it seems like the room’s so small the energy will wake up you know when someone next you it’s it’s
a strange thing and and mostly about body language and other
people’s characters and and gave me time to reflect on my own and you know you
you see the people you admire and and and the traits they possess and I would just try to I would I would try to um
possess those and you also see the traits that make other people look soft
and [ __ ] you don’t respect um their conduct and these little these little
quirks that that stick out and you and you just try to eliminate it and
extinguish it from yourself and and um CU I never really
hadn’t you know I was just so involved in the quick money and and and the homeboy and all that and never really
felt like I had a purpose and so I’ll just drift around I’ll drift around and
and as I go and and um I don’t know where I’m going with
that but but it’s not a good way to live man you just you’re circumstantial you you
wait for circumstances to go your way and and it’s just it’s not going to yeah
it’s not going to or it’s not that’s not really who you are when shit’s going your way you need
to when shit’s not going your way and the selft talk you have and and and
that’s that’s also why I like I don’t even like going to the gym I don’t even like working out but just doing [ __ ] I
don’t like doing doing things I know that’ll build me um you’re going to hit
a wall every every week or so where you don’t want to do it but that’s the only way to level up
is when you climb that wall and just keep pushing CU in prison man you you everything is a
a matter of respect and and you you see people the only way the
only way you get respect is is you can’t hide either it’s not like you can you go hide or make excuses you live in the
same building and it’s it’s your your program your conduct your character and
your word and and and you see people for who they are real quick you
know and I just like I said I like I would see people I admire or respect and I would
just take those traits and try to possess them and apply it to my life and
you know I’m I’m trying to build the man that that that I want
to give to the world man the man that I would want that I always want you know I had older brothers but the man I always
wanted and the man I looked up to um that’s who I want to try and be you know I mean were were some of those
characteristics of the people that that you respected in there or I guess um discipline discipline discipline
um honor obviously but but discipline is a big one you
know people you see um that are there every day they show up
every day they’re they’re accountable they’re not they’re not thinking about themselves they’re more
stoic um they’re looking out for their people and you could tell you could tell that
they respect themselves and so they’re able to give the actual respect out and
um just people people don’t lie people who hold their
words and and it’s easy to point out you know
and and people didn’t use drugs yeah what would you say was the
worst part about person um there’s been times
where you know the yard is going to go off the next day or day or two M and uh
what does that mean for the viewers go off say um a riot so I’m in the white
car and say we know when the doors crack for yard or breakfast that the Mexicans
if we if we have if there’s if there’s some kind of tension with the Mexicans or disrespect or a theft or it’s most
commonly a drug debt that’s reached its limit um but you know a Riot’s coming and
you’re on a yard where there’s no fights so you got some kind of metal and and
just sleeping on it and you got to sleep on it and try to I mean not many people sleep when they
know it’s coming up it’s scary [ __ ] man I’ve been in knife fights with fight with dudes bigger than me and [ __ ]
scary you know so I’d say and then also
when when you get caught for this [ __ ] and you get sent to the hole and it’s
not just like 90 days lost of time it’s you could turn your fouryear term into 15 real
quick wow and just not knowing you know um me personally that’s happened um I
had to do what I had to do and I was able to run to a cell with a broken window and have my buddy flush it and
they still got me for it and they were throwing large numbers out at the at the
board and um but the evidence they collected was already a log number of
someone else’s and the case got um dropped and I just add I just had to do
some whole time but things like that where you where you don’t what’s going to happen
to you you really start thinking about your people your family
um just just the madness behind it all you know that’s that that was what the
hardest part for me was the lack of control violence because
cuz you can conduct yourself accordingly but if someone in your car which is your
race is acting up it it involves all of you so it’s it’s
like you can’t avoid it you
know so I yeah I could see how that could cause some PTSD for sure yeah I
mean there’s just like a very it seems like there’s like a a lack of control you know basically of your fate um is
there any I don’t know how much I would really wanted to get into this maybe we but uh what about the uh what is like
that the you know I guess system is doing to for this whole thing not like this the prison the people in the prison
but like the people I guess running it
um what is it doing for them yeah like what is it doing in like situations like this because it seems like you know the
reason that you’re going is I mean what they’re saying is like help you right or like so that you can reform but it’s
like it seems like there’s situations where you have no real control of like your fate like
say somebody go say somebody’s there right um they’re trying to reform they’re trying to do everything right
they get they’re stuck in a situation where you know they have to do something
you know cuz like it’s like it’s a riot and it’s just kind of unfortunate right like you just kind of you you kind of
get caught in the Crosshair that’s so funny somebody from prison jail is calling me right
now okay um because you have to do what you have to do to survive
in like it comes to mind is they’re do they’re there to do your job but once if if you’re on the other
side of things there’s not many if you’re a GP general population the
politics are so strict that you don’t really have a choice of what’s going on you’re going to answer
to someone and regardless of who you are PR prison’s a numbers game and if you
want to try to go against the grain four or five people will show you real quick you won’t and so when these things go on
it’s just constant and and the cops they just
do what they got to do man I I mean I’ve been sprayed a lot I never
I never got hit with a block gun or um or or seeing someone on the yard
get killed but they’re on the next yard you know there there’s signs all over warning no warning shots they got those
Mini 14s and and they’re trying to kill them man they’re there’s some there’s some cool
cosos and and there’s those other ones that just Power Trip that have some some
going on with themselves where they just like to ruin people’s you know
day they’re just having a bad day and taking it out yeah you know they come
they come here and they’re often [ __ ] nerds that just have some kind of
authority they like to flex and but like I said there’s other ones that that are decent and and understand
the pain that you go through and and you know yeah you’re not going
home a lot of people I was able to I was
fortunate um what do you think uh is mental health what type of mental
health would you say is very prevalent in uh that system
um I mean there’s just a lot of anger a lot of anger
and and a lot of depression you know there’s you’re so far from home and you
just got after 3 minutes in a cop car 3 days in
the cell three month you start losing [ __ ] and 3 years more you start losing your people
and but you know there’s a lot a lot of sadness man a lot of
sadness what’s the advice like you would give um to your younger self to maybe
like change what happened that’s a great question um cuz
in the end you know I’m grateful for everything that’s happened to me MH just made you who you are yeah
and I would have liked to been around more for my grandma I would have liked to been a little more reliable for my
family um just the street scene and and the homeboys
and all that all that crap was my priority and I would have changed that I
would just I would like to be there a little more for my family yeah maybe stuck to some kind of
sports or skateboarding or you that ambition I had for drug dealing
into something a little more prideful MH do you think a lot of people end up
in the um like criminal justice system because like kind of what you were
saying like not having purpose but like I think it’s pretty common with the
youth through the younger generation to to like I did just glamorize that
gang your lifestyle the easy money
and um you don’t really
have you don’t really have reget regrets as a kid I don’t cut that part out um
please was your what was your question I don’t even remember but you don’t CU you see some [ __ ] and and you’re just you go
into it or you want to you want to try this new Endeavor you want to try and
for me is like trying to make a name for myself or and it’s not tell older after you
keep running the same wall every time and you get these regrets regret is your
guideline you know people who say they don’t have no regrets it’s you don’t have a choice with regret you feel it
and that’s just a hookup from your better self telling you to knock that [ __ ] off and as a kid you you
know you know and it’s never like I just hated myself so I got into addiction or
I had trauma or abused or it was none of that I just I hung out with friends that
that I looked up to and they used and I just kind of followed that bread trail of crumbs and and into a massive
addiction MH when you got out um or when you would
get out of prison was it hard for you to like get back to
society and in what
ways
um not not so many times when I would get out because I would fall right back into the drug deal and I’ll fall right
back you know um it would be hard for me to maintain it it’s it’s really easy for
me to just cut people out and and just I lose
everything and it’s it didn’t mean anything to me and um it hard for me to really invest
in relationships or invest in self because I would just always be in
and it would be hard to adjust I could never find stability I never SE it I
knew I just knew I’d be going back to prison and or jail or violation I was
just a train wreck with no plan B and
instantly just on the run and instantly just every day I leave the house it’d be
some kind of drama some kind of trouble and I just knew it’d be
coming and but like like when when I got caught
in front of my grandma’s house um even though I just bailed out you know getting out that
time it it shifted my perspective on what what I need to do
and and just may it’d be hard it’d be hard just just
building relationships because I’m just so I’m just so in my own ways
and and I couldn’t accept what I needed to
do to to be a better person and and this time that last time I did MH what
changed for you
um just how I just how I saw myself you know
um being a loser is a choice and I just I was a loser for so long being Fat’s a
choice being addiction’s a choice you know I just what changed for me is
everything I had to I had to make a complete change
um and and really listen to my conscience and
cuz your conscience you know it guides you and and a lot of times I just get my
own way and and rationalize and but this time my conscious it was
loud tell me man you need to [ __ ] shape up you need to get straight you need to you do these things I started
adhering to it and uh and things start to change you know it’s
bringing me on this path that you know I have a beautiful life
today um so obviously you’ve you know had a part in your consequences but is
there a time or multiple times where you felt like it was
unjust there were many times where I felt like it was unjust um
especially I don’t know well it even before I signed for gang terms you know
just living in Orange County there must not be a lot of crime um I mean I
thought there was a whole lot more to do the mess with me but but there’s been times where just they they recognize me
and they want to [ __ ] with me um there’s been times where they’ve beat me up in
handcuffs um there well that doesn’t sound right we should I can go into that
a little better M um yeah once once you start living that
life and and and really um garnering that kind of
name you put for yourself and and and living that the cops they have your number and and they want they want you
to know that they know um they would recognize me and and pull me over a true
story in Laguna Niguel they’ve planted evidence on me and and arrested me for a sales charge and that I
had no idea where they got what they got me for from um there’s been times where
I’m walking down the street when they had people pulled over and they recognized me and let the dude go and
took me to jail and um
couple times I’ve been beat up and I’ve never I’ve never fought back um the most
recent time being um I moved into a condo in Costa
Mesa um I was doing all right I didn’t I wasn’t kicking up much dust or causing
Ruckus it was um it was a condo I rented from some lady and her son and
to get to the the front door my neighbor and I we shared like a a walkway to our
front doors and to get to my apartment he would turn left and to get to his and we and I had the front room so if you to
look out my window for my room you’d be able to see down that walkway and out the street well my neighbor I’ve caught
him on two three different occasions just looking in my window which I thought was really strange and but at
the same time he had a newborn baby and I had traffic coming in the house
that looked like shady characters perhaps I understood why he would be kind of
scoping me out but on the third or fourth time I was going to say something
but um on a certain night I had been I’d been up for a couple days and I took
some hallucinate um and I I I dozed off and my lava lamp
that I had going on in my room I was alone my lava lamp um overheated and broke and I had a nightmare that my
neighbor shot me through the window and I’ve been shot at before too and you
know it it I I woke up there was broken glass on the floor I panicked I thought
he was coming in my house for whatever reason and so I punched a couple holes
through the door thinking I’d catch them it was my bedroom door it was one of those Hollow ones it was wasn’t I mean
it wasn’t difficult but it it made a lot of noise anyways I was panicking I was in a I was in a psychosis almost and uh
my roommates came downstairs Hey Jake are you all right you all right I said no I’m not I don’t know if I’ve been
shot I don’t even know if I’m dead my bleeding and all I was wearing was board shorts I had no shirt on and and um and
I was like spinning laps just pulling my hair out and the lady’s son said uh yeah
bud you did die you’re you’re um you’re in purgatory right now and and
that’s what I was thinking before he even said that and I I wigged out um and
I I punched him a few times I I wouldn’t say I beat him up because he didn’t fight back but I almost I punched him
really hard and um his mom called the cops
and whatever she had said to them they came the whole street was full of them the whole street was lined up with them
they got their megaphone out and uh query come out U with your hands be your back walk
backwards all that and um I was I was still tripping very hard on
hallucinations or the hallucinations and and they had um guns drawn to me and
sirens were light lit up and it was uh it was pretty gnarly man and
and when I walked back to them they cuffed me up um and there’s so many of
them and it caused such a scene there was about probably 12 15 of them um
we’re deal you know neighbors came outside and they were talking to these neighbors they were talking to these
neighbors and I was talking to I was sitting on the curb handcuffed I thought um I was talking to like three or four
of them that were they were acting cool with me and I told them hey man I’m going adjust my handcuffs from behind me
to just underneath my legs while I’m sitting on this curb and I did that and
a cop from over here um seen that and he just
um like Stone Cold he just stunned me dude he [ __ ] head first dip me and uh
and you know the bravado of the cops man if if they all got each other’s backs and and they all just jumped on me they
all just jumped on me um I I was like squirming around I wasn’t able to fight
back but um I was tell I was yelling someone [ __ ] help record this [ __ ] and um
they Twisted me up man that they they twisted up my ankle they I was basically being suffocated it
was like that um you know that black dude from the south that cuz they had me
and lock bro they ruptured my eardrum um dude they they jumped on me bad and they
sent me to uh they 5250 me and for about two weeks it’s I felt like I had wet
wood in my ear I couldn’t hear things when I when I went like this my ear would whistle and um I couldn’t walk on my on
my foot for like three months man and I lost my job I lost my apartment
and I lost but that that’s just part for the chor but what what I’m getting at is
just once you start going to prison all the time and just keep running this keep bumping your
head and doing the same dumb [ __ ] um you get the cops attention and and I
take part I take a little part of that too even though what they do a lot of times on the streets is
unfair but they just must be bored you know they they told they told my my
friend’s dad one time that time they planted evidence they said yeah when we meet when we need to meet our quota we
just go see Jake they planted evidence on me that time it’s just wild man he said they
would just like go to your mom’s house all the time all the time when I lived in Lago they would go there gooned out
vest helmets unnecessary and just rip ripped out part
dude you know they it was bad man they knew my dog’s name he throw moose in the backyard and
we’re coming in [ __ ] man
um and they they they beat me up before for um I wouldn’t fight back I I know
better as much as I want to you know at that point you’re not going to win but they would just beat me
up man yeah I mean it’s hard because I’m sure there’s some great cops and then
there’s some who are just you know I I guess trying to see where they could get
you yeah pretty much um so now that you’re a behavioral health counselor
like how has that changed you and like how does that inspire you now um let’s
talk about what how you got to where you’re at right now so yeah like I was saying earlier I got I had to do nine
months at at treatment center and and you know I’ve tried my own way so
many times and and just ended up with the same result and so this time I
just I really looked with him and and and started Gathering knowledge and just
learning who I was and you know not so much what I want to do but just following the path of of what what
God’s got laid out for me and and kind of just um
just being a better person you know I Dro dro the vices dropped the uh the
ego grew faith and and and it helped me so much that it
seems like the only thing the you know just to share the answer and help other
people tell them how I did it and and it came down to just
discipline and service work man you know helping other people it’s
just it’s gratifying and and it’s rewarding and and it keeps me out of my
way keeps me out of my own way you know I always get in my way and self- sabotage and
um but since since I’ve been sober this time
and um I just you know helping people I feel like you’re all the trauma
and and [ __ ] you put yourself in through is the prerequisite of your purpose and
you know I’ve been through I’ve been through some things and went through addiction and lost everything and and I
found what worked for me and I’m still on this path and I just want to share it and help other people that are
struggling um is there any advice that you would have uh for somebody I guess going through a similar
situation to what you were going through I know there was a lot but
um I’d say at the beginning like when you were getting on this
course
um just do things to
you know what not to do and and just do things out make your family proud and do things that make
yourself proud because if you’re not proud of yourself no one’s going to be proud of you and and if you fall into
addiction and bad habits and and substance use it’s just there’s really
only two ends to that and that’s incarceration or death and
um you know just I don’t know I would I would try
and think of what I should have thought I don’t know
I should have thought a little more about other people cuz you know through
all that [ __ ] I put myself in it affected a lot more than me I was collateral damage to my whole family the
ones that believed in me my friends that cared
and it’s yeah that’s just stay on track stay on track
uh you know get a craft get a
passion you know shoot for it I don’t know yeah you
can create purpose and meaning through anything so it could be like the bad
stuff that’s going to get you caught or in prison or it could be like you said
passions Hobbies helping others connection
yeah you know working in the in the as
a is it mental health technician Behavioral Health counsel Behavior
okay um you know we got a lot of people that struggle with mental health
and and whether it’s anxiety or depression or anything man it’s
just we have the answers internally and if you were just quit all your [ __ ]
quit your vices eat healthy work out you’re not going to need to try and
believe guidance from some decrypt old fat doctor telling you you have
depression to take more pills these are just internal
notifications to to change I believe U my mom’s got depression my family’s
got depression and it just drives me nuts that they don’t do anything about it but just have negative selft talk it
infects whoever they’re around and and um depression is just a magnification of
the past that of of the wrongs you’ve done or or the [ __ ] you should have done and and I
think anxiety is just um something you’re tripping about a the future
and I don’t believe in medications okay don’t say that some some people may need
medication but um that’s not the only thing they should do they should definitely have to do therapy and
medication if you’re hungry that’s your body telling you you should eat if
you’re depressed that’s your body telling you you need to [ __ ] change something you need to do something you need to take
action and there’s also some people with a chemical imbalance that need some some
assistance but they can’t solely rely on medication without doing the other stuff
40% of our happiness is based off of intentional activities so if they’re not
doing anything then yeah of course the depression is going to go up and the
anxiety and everything else that’s kind of a weird one for me because like I do think that sometimes some somebody might
need something to help them take action like maybe like literally you know
there’s just some reason they can’t but then a lot of these medications are stuff that you have to continuously take
and I’ve encountered a lot of people that have uh had some pretty negative
side effects from them some of them make them more suicidal so I definitely think that there’s some who are overprescribed
for sure and who might not need it and then there are some who who do when you
accept it and take start taking these medic a you prescribe yourself to the idea that you’re
depressed you know and it’s just but sometimes labeling can help in
order to figure out what you need to do about it so okay well thanks for coming on the podcast it was really cool having
you thank you thank you thanks thank you all right cool
