Podcast Transcript
my name is Jeff I’m here on behalf of Mental Health Resources today we have ingred Marquez a certified meditation
instructor thank you thank you so much yeah so ingred if you could tell us a
little bit about yourself and why you got into um you know meditation and all
your holistic methods oh first of all thank you so much you know I really
appreciate being here and um discussing meditation especially this month you
know during mental health I have been meditating for over 20 years um actually
when I first started meditating I really didn’t know what I was doing like you know what am I doing but
um through the course of the years I there was a time in my life where I was
truly struggling really I tried everything from you know
prayer to to therapy it was just such a hard time in my life
my my son was really struggling with addiction and first of all we don’t get
a manual when we’re parents to become parents much less going through this
journey of addiction and mental health and I found
myself myself in the addiction in in
just the whole nightmare of not knowing how to help him or even help myself with
really coming to terms right so at that point I realized that it was only the
meditation that was giving me a little bit of relief you know from the tears
from the stress from the anxiety so I really immersed myself in the studies um
as he was going in and out of different rehab centers I realized that they
weren’t giving the clients the tools that they needed to navigate during
their stressful times or when they went back out into society so as I continued on you know my
journey and I realized how much it helped me and um I wanted to share it
with others and that’s really what when I found my passion I found what my
purpose was in this life so from something so horrific for me where I saw
no light I found it through meditation and I also found my purpose you know
with um sometimes I get emotional when I speak of it but it was truly my Saving
Grace no one teaches us how to be still how to be be silent how to you know
journey within and and find the answers and the love that we have inside for us
to help others and to be of service we first have to love and help
ourselves so that was my journey and now this is what I do and this is what I
love and every day for me it is not work for me it is
just what I do you know it is my passion to be able if I can help one person then
I’ve done my job right and I know that you did um you know training and all of
that can you talk a little bit more about your training yes of course uh
when I first started de diving into meditation you know I I was looking all
different types because there are many many different types of meditation which
is wonderful I started my education through uh the Chopra Center with Dr
Deepak CH Chopra and Roger Gabriel and they actually uh prior to starting the
Chopra Center this was 25 years ago worked with Transcendental Meditation so
the root of my um of the work that I do is rooted in the viic wisdom of India so
um I have that Foundation which is rooted in Mantra based meditations of
the journey within but I’ve also studied with other doctors other teachers so I
really try to not only use the spiritual you know road map but also the
science behind it because I really feel that if we understand the wise and the
how that it is so much easier to really you know understand why we need to do
this um and also for my students when I’m teaching you know it’s not just okay
do this and you’re going to be better but this is how it can help you these are the methods this is how the brain
works you know it’s just so I always say ask why ask ask the how
and really you know find seek and find what resonates with you yeah and that
helps too because some people are more spiritual some people need are more intellectual exactly and now this speaks
to both of them exactly and there and there’s so many different beautiful
forms of meditation you know we have the the ancient practice where we become
still where we repeat mantras and Mantra is basically just the repetition
of a sacred sound or word right but there are guided meditations there are
walking meditations there’s dance meditation I myself teach um meditation
in motion uh roomie the great a poet and
philosopher wrote there is no better dance partner than your own spirit so
going within and connecting so I you know there’s art there there’s just so
much for one to really be able to go within a lot of different techniques so
say I was I guess one of your students how uh how would you start with
everything first of all I I would really ask and try to
see what you have from your background if you’ve done any meditation depending
on what state you’re in right cuz I really try to to Really connect with my
student the first and most important tool that I teach this is for
anyone you know whether just every day whether you’re in recovery whether
you’re having um you know struggling or not it’s how to breathe that is the most
important and the most powerful tool that we have is to really know how to
breathe and how to become centered and grounded when when we hold our breath
you know the oxygen is not going through our system so the Mind cannot think
clearly so when we do Breathe It grounds us and it only takes 17 seconds you know
the same as with a negative thought when we have a negative thought within 17
seconds you’re going to have a negative emotion and then it’s going to trigger the body into believing that you are
processing the same trauma or the same negative thought so the breathing is the
very very first thing that I teach yeah so I’ve done I’ve done a good amount of
different breathing techniques I think the ones that I really stuck with are I
like the the 478 mhm breathing um and then like the Wim Hof
you know Wim Hof so it’s like you you basically hyperventilate for 30 seconds and then you exhale for a minute and
then you hold your breath for 15 seconds and then you do another hyper
hyperventilating and then the second time you do it you you exhale for a
minute and 30 seconds MH um that one’s definitely a little bit more intense for
me it’s it’s very intense and and when you’re first you know starting on the
this journey I would not recommend doing that you know because you really pranama
which is breath work you know that is that is breath work it has to be
something very gentle and someone that really knows what they’re doing is that
what that is is breath work yes absolutely abely 478 I’ll do like I I do
that like to get me into like before I just start like meditating like if it’s like the morning I’ll just like do that
a couple times and then I’m just kind of in a state where I can just like breathe and for for me for example when I’m
teaching a new student it is all very gentle it could be just very very gentle
because when when you’re when you don’t know what you’re doing right you’ve never made like for instance you have so
and you’ve worked with teachers so that is really good but for so I always say and and also you
know the gurus say it h you have to be very careful I’m very because you never
know what the student if the student has asthma problems if you know all the
medical so you want to go very easily very very gentle and with me the
starting of just breathing in through the nose very gently without any deep
inhales and then exhaling and if you close your eyes and just notice you
become the witness and you notice the coolness of the breath as you inhale so
you’re receiving this fresh oxygen the breath of life and then as you exhale
you can actually feel the warmth so right there your focus is on your breath
and it is so gentle that it comes within 17 seconds you’re back to a normalized
which is you you know normalizing the heart rate your blood pressure and your mind yes the mind is very harsh to calm
down and and the this is what the breath will do and I and I teach different
techniques you know stomach breathing but everything is gentle in the beginning that would be for example me
telling a student okay we’re going to sit down and meditate don’t think
that’s what’s going to happen there you know the mind is going to go you’re going to go panic and you’re going to be
think of everything or if I say to you just you know breathe gently the student
doesn’t know yet but if we put the focus on the breath then that slows down the
chatter and you’re actually being a witness and then I start I teach how to
move the breath because we’re all energetic beings right and the reason
that our stress levels are so high the cortisol the release of the stress
hormones so when we become in tuned with our bodies with the physical body and we
move the energies throughout our being that brings everything down you know our
muscles when we’re stressed out do this right yeah so if as you breathe into it
it releases the pressure so that’s how I begin the
teachings of the breath what what effects have you noticed it having on
people’s mental health just cuz you know you know when so when the the practice
of meditation is used I have seen a tremendous growth with my students for
for them to realize that they can actually calm their own being with the
breath you know where they their nights when they can’t fall asleep and using
the breath they’re able to go to a Commerce State it’s just been amazing
and and I think that’s what is so necessary as we continue to learn about
mental health is really giving the tools to teach the student the client you know
how they can self- regulate I teach my students not to respond immediately in
situations to take a breath step back ground themselves there was the the what
we consider like the father of yoga patan jali he was a sage um you know
hundreds of years ago that really the the book
where all yogis all yoga teachers meditation teachers read this book he
writes that taking care I’m paraph raising here that each one of us it is
necessary to rest to eat to take care of ourselves you know so that we can go out
into the world and be of service of others with a clear mind and an open
heart and using the breath and being able to ground ourselves is how we can
do that and teaching others you know especially and tapping is another
beautiful way yes I tapping you know just gently tapping to the different
points in the body you know we have what we call uh chakras in atic medicine
they’re energy centers in Chinese medicine it’s acupuncture uh so in tapping we’re touch
you know placing our thumbs our fingers and tapping that area moving the energy
right and I think that that’s it really aligns with EMDR as well absolutely I
just had a session today and I was telling my client I’m like you really need to incorporate the holistic methods
of yoga of trauma releasing exercises of you know eating healthy
getting enough rest meditation like all of this stuff because if you just do
EMDR it’s not as effective as doing all of it it it’s like it you put it all
together right it is um I love EMDR you know when I see that my students and
then I come in right afterwards and just help them remember
what they need to do and that’s with a clear mind become more settled and then
they can progress in in everything else but it’s just really calming them you
know because the body keeps the score I mean that’s an amazing book but it’s very true we store our trauma in our
bodies we do we do and but we can we can change that I you know I’ve really
studied um with Dr Joe dispenser which I love I love you know
um there was a podcast with he and J Shetty that you know it’s really yeah
both of them right and Jay is like so young and vibrant and Dr dispenser just
has so so much of this knowledge and what I love is that you can rewire your
brain you really can as he says you know when we have a negative thought we have
it triggers a negative emotion that negative emotion triggers the body to
believe that you are in that moment of trauma or anxiety whatever it may be so
the body doesn’t know the difference and the best way that I can explain this is
when you see an amazing actor and you see their work and you you you just look
at them and go how can they do that well they have me they’re they’re in the zone
what athletes call The Zone actors call a Zone when they memorize their lines
and the emotion is triggered the body does not know that they’re an
actor true they believe the lines to be true and they the body you’ll see a lot
of actors after doing a very difficult performance they will actually get sick
yes they will actually get sick so the body doesn’t know so everything that you
say and think especially about yourselves the body believes it to be
true were saying about Heath Ledger exactly when he did Batman he went over
the edge he went over the edge he the he went to the zone and he just never came
back never came back so it’s very important to know you know how we speak
to ourselves you know not to go back to really teach everyone I mean I I think
it’s something that should be taught from CH you know from way way young to
to Really incorporate this to teach our children you know how to breathe I know
as a child myself um when I was afraid I’d hold my breath
that would make matters worse right you’re pressing at an early age from an
early age so it is you know I think here in the west you know really we we need
to get to that point where we are actually educating parents to educate
their children you know as they grow so that we do not you know the the
situation this world right now that we’re living in we’re all in a fight flight of free mode especially since the
pandemic so this is for everyone I believe that um these practices should
be started you know at a young age and at whatever age to help especially in
the US because it’s other countries they even have times where they go home to
nap and here that would be yeah yes yes I me I’m all for I would love that but
it’s you know unheard of in the United States it’s really it’s really sad
dinner time what Happ you know in like let’s say the three of us you know we
we’re from different cultures and I know in my culture that you know dinner time
was to talk to each other to tell say about our days you know now everyone is
attached to a phone yeah if you go to a restaurant you will see a table filled
you know and everyone’s on their phone I don’t understand that it’s like why even go out anymore the point what’s the
point of that you know of not um so I think here especially you know of
really the family unit and F when I say family you know I’m not speaking just
blood family you know friends you know sitting and enjoying each other speaking
to each other really listening that that in itself is an art form that in itself
is feeding the soul you know there’s so many ways to feed the soul you know just
in nature and taking the time but it’s really a journey
of really knowing who you are and we only can do that through silence going
within and that’s what people run from and that’s that’s where they struggle in their mental health too is like they
want to do everything else besides look within um where that’s why you know I’ve
worked with you for years and it always complement because you’re teaching them
how to look within themselves so that they can do the hard work in therapy exactly exactly so that they can be you
know open to therapy and open to the suggestions you know when when you see
someone that is struggling you both know that you know they they go they they
close down but they’re also closing their heart right you know their their
inner child their traumas and so when we get them to open up and really see how
beautiful they are and how smart they are and and what a beautiful life that
they have waiting for them it’s it’s just magnificent to see but it all we
have to work together right that’s the hard part it’s you know and getting them
on getting everyone and I and I just think that right now you know especially
in our world right now it’s the mental health
situation is dangerous it is I it’s just very dangerous and we we all have to do
our part and helping each other you know however we can well and I think yeah the
fact that they’re not connecting with other people that is the hardest part and like like you said if they’re not
opening their heart to it they’re not going to connect and they’re not going to feel better um yeah so what would you
do with like a resistant client or someone who’s just resistant to meditation in general it’s most people
are you know when they first come in um I work at you know quite a few different
facilities and companies and when they come in you you
I can I know like that you know this one it’s going to take a moment it’s
not it is said that when the student is ready the teacher will appear right so I
have found with clients that are struggling with mental health when they
see the difference with their ears when they hear my voice I never Force
anything but if I can show give them a little just a little bit of relief just
for that moment and as they come to class it’s you know you will see one
that is resisting but as they continue coming
hearing seeing they open up I’ve had students that I can’t meditate I don’t
want to meditate I don’t know why I’m here and I say okay that that’s fine just you know take your time relax if
you want to fall asleep fall asleep but what they don’t know is that their subconscious is hearing me their body is
hearing me and then when they wake up they’re refreshed and they come back and
they come back and some of these students are now one of some of my best
students that I consider because they see that it works they see that it they works you know or they’ll call what how
do I do the breath again you know I also teach them different mudas mudras are
hand gestures that move the energy um how to breathe how to just there’s so
many diff you know depending on the student I will know you know okay this
person needs this type of meditation movement meditation and they see the
difference or they’ll hear me give you know teaching and then I’ll notice
little by little they start coming you know they stand by the door okay they come
in what do you think about um it’s a little off topic but exercise as a form
of meditation cuz I always like I’ll go through times in my life where I’ll
meditate more or I’ll exercise more because you know there’s only so many hours in the day
um but what do you think I know because I’ve heard people say all sorts of different things like smoking is a form
of meditation exercise can be a form of meditation the smoking I don’t think is
a form of meditation thank you but the ex exercise is so important you know
there because with it’s it’s good for your physical body your mental health
you’re also moving energy yeah you’re moving energy I I think it is very
important we have to keep you know you have yoga you have taii which I love
taii um just all the running wa walking they’re all forms of meditation we are
meditation is keeping the mind focused really you know so when we are doing
exercise I’m not a gym rat you know but I love walking I love um doing yoga I
love doing ta Chi but it is ex you’re keeping focused it’s like playing an
instrument when you’re playing an instrument all your focus is going there
so the chatter stops when you’re doing exercise are you thinking about anything else no so there you have
relief yeah and then what do you think about the difference between prayer and
meditation ah I love that question it is one of my teachers um
years ago said to me when you pray you speak to God or the universe or
Source right when you meditate God speaks to you when you’re praying you’re talking
you’re asking you’re pleading you’re begging you’re on your knees you’re on
the floor there it’s please please please please there’s no way you can
hear the answer that you’re looking for if you’re talking right but when you
meditate and you’re quiet then God can speak to you in many different forms
through inspiration right giving you the answers that you need your intuition opens we
always say the third eye chakra is really where intuition it’s that gut feeling that you get that inner wisdom
all the answers are within us they they truly are and that comes from Source
from your higher self so when you become quiet then you can hear so I love both
you know you you pray you give thanks gratitude
is if there is one thing that I say that you can pray for is in gratitude just
thank you that that with that alone right I know uh one like big question I
had early in my meditation Journey
um was like how it like goes with Christianity cuz I mean I know like that
it’s not necessarily in Christianity like they don’t really talk about meditation that much in the Bible unless like you know you really I think look at
it and like interpret it a certain way um and then I’ve also even heard some
Christians like almost kind of denounce meditation I you know a lot of different
cultures so let me start by saying this meditation is not a religion mhm okay it
is a powerful healing technique and every religion in this world has
meditation they may not call that in some form or another and I wish they
would have taught us this as children right um for example I wish I would have
known this when I was a little girl my aunts used to sit around and uh repeat
the rosary right the beads and they would oh yeah repeat the prayer over and
over again yeah okay right the um Hail Mary the Our Father which is like a
mantra which is a mantra and all they did was repeat the prayer over and over
again had we been taught that the reason for that was to go within it was just
say you know the Our Father Ting times and go through it that was a form of
meditation the Buddhists with their with their Mala beads that is a form of
meditation what’s so interesting is when I was going through my
certification the Mantra that we use is um AUM that is the you know the what
they consider the sound of the universe every
culture has those three letters in Christianity when we pray we say
Amen okay the Hindus a the Muslims a
mean everyone has the same so everyone has been meditating in some way without
knowing it the Sufi they dance to connect with God you
know our indigenous people it’s through dance that they connect
that is a form of meditation yeah singing and they exactly
so I I have you know I’ve had a couple students that were that you know in um
in groups had said well you know I’m a Christian I can’t do that meditation and I would say I’m not teaching you you
know if anything this is giving you more of an anchor to whatever it is that you
believe in I’m very respectful to everyone’s beliefs um I like to go with
um with what Rumi says you know my religion is love yeah and I liked how
you compare you know you didn’t say prayer or meditation it really goes hand in hand with other it goes it really it
really goes hand in hand you know to connect with create the Creator whatever
it is that you believe in the universe something greater than you you know the
light of love the light of goodness you know and it’s ah in every also in every
scripture it says you know and in every religion ask and you shall receive yeah
you know so when we pray we ask the secret is let’s raise our vibration you
know instead of being in doubt believe and move that the energies within us and
be in a positive place so that we could receive what we’re asking for because
we’re like magnets you know if I’m saying yeah I want that but I’m way you
know down here that not coming no it’s some there waiting for us
have to work for it a little bit exactly exactly but it’s being you know asking
and then going within and calming the system because we all know too when
we’re stressed when we’re fatigued when we’re anxious the stress hormones are
released the cortisol is doing havoc in the body and that’s when disease happens
yes so if we can calm everything down including the mind I mean that is
there’s so many benefits of meditation physically emotionally mentally why not
I think my next uh this question is kind of like there’s a lot of I don’t know if you know what a
psychonaut is do you know what that is so
like do you believe that certain drugs
will put you in a meditative State no no not at all I think
that drugs really block connecting
with who you really are all the senses how can you know how can you hear you
know what you need to learn through it it it changes the chemical in your brain
you know I know that there are certain drugs for example fentanyl it will make you a psychotic right it um what a
double personality and they cannot tell the difference we were just talking about
that um where you’ll go against everything everything that you know so no not at all
meditation is such you know I’ve had a lot of students that are whoops that are going through recovery and that have
said to me I don’t need drugs if I have meditation this is taking me to another
place you know so we don’t need that you know because it does
change the human you know the brain um to a point where you don’t even
recognize them and I know this because I’ve lived it you know you both know
that my son struggled with addiction and
um and he passed uh due to an overdose of
fentanyl the brain was saying something different and he even his therapist said
I can’t even determine what’s going on for 6 months because the fentanyl has
has really damaged the brain and it’ll take that long so I I hear of now you know people
using mushrooms and on and on and on and it’s like if you only knew what you have
within you you know I know some of the indigenous have used it you know in ancient
times but they weren’t using it you know whatever they knew what they were doing
as far for the rituals that was something so so different something that I know nothing you know about um but no
I I I don’t believe that drugs can take you take you on a bad
trip yeah I think um it goes back to like being open-minded and opening your
heart and like some people aren’t willing to do that without drugs and
that’s why they think that it’s the drugs that are helping them do that but they could do that on their own with
meditation official yes it’s exactly exactly and you know
from I’ve worked with so many so many clients and
students and it touches my heart you know when
they finally open up when they when they’re finally able to connect and
remember who they truly are you know it is the most beautiful thing in the world
even it’s for that half hour you know or hour then they’re with me they get a
taste of what being at peace is you know life is never going to be easy we’re
we’re on this journey um the road is Bumpy but meditation makes this bumpy
road a little bit easier to travel more
clear when you can look at yourself and go I’ve done the you know I’m doing good
I’m okay you’re right and I I do think that um treatments and therapy like they
they do lack giving the tools it’s like okay I have anxiety but what am I going to do about it exactly
meditation tells them exactly how to do it but people will resist it they don’t
want to use the tools they don’t want to use it for for a little bit but once they start seeing you know the benefit
for them I have a student that just you know and I meant to bring you know what
they write me you know of how they feel I have a student now that is getting up
at 5: in the morning she’s in rehab right now she’s getting up at 5: to do
her personal meditation without guidance she has grown that much knowing that she
has to start her day and everything works hand in hand you know the therapy
which is amazing the meditation that allows them to open up
to the therapist because that’s another thing too and to be able to listen to
what the therapist has to say and then you add you know everything and other
holistic methods that can help with the acupuncture as well you know and the the
really knowing who they are you know connecting
with the gifts that they have because of the cloud you know and I always say that
once you start this journey the veil of Darkness begins to
fade and you see again and you hear again and you feel again
too it’s true feeling like I think that
um with meditation that’s probably the biggest benefit or would you agree with that or do you think there’s okay yes
and you know not only teaching the person that we’re working
with but if we have the opportunity I always invite family members after a
certain point if they would like to join because you know having the family
supporting and learning too you know let’s say parents a lot of times parents
do not have a manual we weren’t even given a manual when our children were born much less if they’re struggling
with mental illness or addiction so we don’t even have a manual for that so if
we all start learning opening up and becoming more of instead of enabling
others but become more of a support group for each other and with meditation
it’s really beautiful when we can do that together are there any
uh uh resources that you would recommend for for people that you know like
meditation groups I don’t know I know there’s there’s a group for just about everything now um is there anything that
you would there there’s so much online I mean you know 20 years ago you just
didn’t know what to do right but right now there’s so many different CL and
free on YouTube you know you can find different techniques I always say seek
and find what resonates with you um if you’re looking for guided meditation
there’s beautiful guided meditations online let’s say if you’re having trouble sleeping there’s sleeping
meditations there’s classes um for breathing I always recommend please
please please very gentle breaths no deep breathing um nothing like that
everything is gentle but there’s so much online that can help you uh books
beautiful books you know the books of Dr uh Joe despenser Deepak Chopra eal toi
is amazing as well Jay Shetty really goes with the younger crowd you know
that resonates there but there’s so many different um things that you could I
think there’s the apps also available so if you if you really want to learn this
there’s so much available to you out there which is so
nice so um what would you say would be like your
advice for everybody who wants to get better with you know meditation or even
just getting more rest um anything for their mental health what would be like the biggest piece of advice you would
give them absolutely rest rest is so
important for all of us when you know when the body and the mind is going you
need your rest of course you need to eat well you need to you know hydrate but
it’s also Coming to Terms you know with let me connect with who I am using the
breath if I can give one advice you can use the breath just a simple technique
is breathing in through the nose and exhaling just very very gentle if um
taking the time you can use music too there’s so many
beautiful you know music to me is the language of God that is Creator whatever
it is that you want to call it soft music to help you go within repeating a
mantra uh just I love one of my favorites is movement meditation
especially for those who believe they cannot sit still is allowing the music
gentle music without lyrics to and your eyes closed and just move allowing the
music to move you right there is a simple very simple you feel the energies
very simple uh but it’s really breathing repeating a mantra a sacred sound or
word and it’s just the repetition allow the thoughts to come through let them
don’t say I’m not going to think about this anymore if they come let them go by bring your attention back to the Mantra
and just continue repeating it over and over with without judgment without worrying am I doing this right or wrong
that’s the hardest part you’re doing you’re sitting there you’re doing that
that’s something very important to me for my students is to leave the self judgment
behind yeah leave you know that that
constant negativity about I did this wrong I did that wrong why can’t I do
this right you know leave the judgments behind when we stop judging ourselves we
stop judging others yeah right um when we’re kind to ourselves Bruce Lee years
ago said that you know be very careful of what you say and and think for the body here so be gentle you know you
could just repeat um is such a simple you know it’s the sound of creation
right and it’s used by all cultures so just s repeating to yourself
um um and you just continuously repeat it and it will be uncomfortable but you
just keep going and and watch your breath you know at night when you can’t sleep just
breathe that would be my recommendation yeah I mean that’s
amazing um it looks like we’re bad at a time but this is like something that I mean you have to go at three right yeah
yes I do but I just a question that we can just like edit we can keep this one or edit it out I’m just interested in it
what are your thoughts on um like astr projection cuz like a lot of people say like they get powers from meditation and
I just don’t know if like it sounds a little crazy to me that like oh you have like Powers now okay we all have powers
you know we we all are these amazing spiritual energetic beings I always say
that um especially when I’m teaching mudas and I’m moving energy and
I’m talking about Reiki we all are healers right we all are creative
beings when I first started on my journey to meditation I I’ll go back a
little bit um I was terrified of doggies
right they were really cute from far away real cute nice dog okay don’t don’t get like hair on me don’t spit on me
don’t do anything that and um I remembered when I was a little girl my mom used to say I was afraid of dogs I
never said that but my mom said that right so I’ve been afraid of dogs my whole life when I started teaching
meditation I realized that the clients that brought their dogs at first I was
like uhoh uhoh but I yeah uh oh what are they going to do but I started to
realize that I had changed over over the course of the years that now I had this
thing with these animals and the dogs they now recognize me the minute I
walk into a facility if they see me they go find their seat MH and they sit and I
I have pictures I’ve posted pictures of doggies just meditating with me and I’m
like this is Magic you know I have now connected so the reason really when
you’re asking about Powers we adish shankara Sage from the 8th Century said
that we were multi-dimensional beings right that there were layers of life um
which meant you know our physical body our energetic body and so forth but as
we go through the Journey of meditation we start growing our Consciousness which it took me a
year to understand what that meant it means awareness you become more aware so
before I was afraid of these animals because of something someone said to me
and now that I’ve stepped you know gone up the the the the
staircase now I realize that I have this energy with them so what’s happening
with meditation which is an excellent question is we are becoming more aware
So Others May think wow she’s powerful or she’s magical we all are we’re just
be we’re opening the consciousness of the mind you know we
live there’s seven stages steps of
Consciousness we are all living in the Sleep dream and awake state
once you start meditating you’re going up the staircase and you see more so
picture seven flights of stairs right we are all in that first stair all you could see is it’s right in front of you
as you continue to grow you go to the next floor you can see a little bit higher and a little bit higher so you
are just growing that is the magic that is the beauty you know we all have it
but we become more in tuned with each other with life
um with with everything around we see you know again so that’s so yeah I truly
believe that um it’s the growth as a human being you
know connecting with that spiritual side yeah well thank you so
much ingred you’re amazing thank you you’re amazing you’re amazing thank you it’s been
really cool it has I could I could talk about this stuff for hours yeah I’d love to come back I’d love I would love that
yeah you know because we all learn I mean I’m constantly learning from you you and I it like I said it really it
goes together it does so much because DBT has mindfulness yes we talk about being present being non-judgmental doing
one thing at a time meditation is one form of that it all goes it goes hand in
hand you know and that’s the beauty of it so thank you
